The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
The Dreams That Shape Us, Lucid Dreaming with Steven Ernenwein

Lucid dreaming and dream-inspired music. Our guest this week is host of the podcast “The Dreams That Shape Us.” Steven Ernenwein’s interest in dreaming started with a spontaneous lucid dream he had in college. He shares it with us and how it changed his life, moving him toward a place where he has grown deeper into trusting his inner voice and an awareness that this is a spiritual universe.

We talk about whether all of a dreams parts are parts of the dreamer or whether outside influences appear in our dreams. Plus, Steven talks about the ethics of controlling your lucid dream and describes his voyage with nightmarish characters from vanquishing them to learning to have compassion for them.

We talk a call from Ray from Santa Cruz with questions about lucid dreaming. Steven has suggestions about how to address the dream consciousness in the dream once lucid. We end by talking about his podcast The Dreams That Shape Us and about his presentation at the upcoming IASD conference in Tucson in July.

BIO: Steven Ernenwein is a dream-inspired hip hop/singer songwriter and has been a dreamworker and avid lucid dreamer for the past 17 years. Steven also cohost’s the storytelling podcast, The Dreams that Shape Us, with J.M. DeBord where they are obliterating the Western myth that dreams mean nothing, by offering up story after story of how dreams have deeply impacted and shaped the dreamer’s inner and outer lives.

Hi podcast can be found at

Contact Steven on IG: (my music) (the podcast)

Lucid dreaming and dream-inspired music. Our guest this week is Steven Ernenwein, podcast host of “the dreams that shape us“.

Join us at the 2022 IN PERSON dream conference in Tucson July 17-21. Register and learn more at

We play clips from the following two guest-CREATED songs: To Feel This Again and Song of Praise.

Outro music is Everything by Mood Science. Ambient music created by Rick Kleffel new every week. Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show, to Tony Russomano for answering the phones and to Ewa Malady for audio editing.

Show aired on May 14, 2022.


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