The Dream Journal
Stop Thinking and Start Imagining with Catherine Shainberg, PhD

Are you ready for a dream revolution? If our guest Dr. Catherine Shainberg reads it right, this could be as big as the 16th century reformation. Catherine starts by describing how she was told as a child to stop “dreaming her life away”, and yet here she is now with a full-time career of teaching people through the School of Images to bring more imagination into their lives. Dr. Shainberg offers to explore Katherine’s recent dream of a mysterious and apparently unstable stone edifice. She associates the wall with my recent feelings of anxiety and encourages me to erase the image. She helps me to find a new image to replace it.

We then speak about how the modern world floods us with images so that our inner faculty for imagination is atrophied. Catherine says that dreams show us the truth of our current situation which isn’t always a pretty picture and so our dreams are not always peaceful. She describes that we are in the midst of a Dream Revolution in which we are finally realizing that mental processes are not enough to solve our problems.

In the final segment, Ray calls in from Santa Cruz, and Dr. Shainberg leads him on a visualization to help him discover which of his burning questions are the most important.

BIO: Catherine Shainberg, Ph.D., is an internationally renowned transpersonal psychologist, lecturer,  teacher, visionary, and award-winning author.  Grounded in the Kabbalah of Light, her work integrates timeless wisdom with modern Western traditions to catalyze creative manifestation at all levels, in all areas of life – personal and professional, communal and global. She created the School of Images® based on her profound realization about the power of images to create, manifest and transform. As a master of this work, she has developed an approach and body of techniques using dreams, images and inner gazing to communicate with our subconscious and change our lives.


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Outro music is Everything by Mood Science. Today’s ambient music is called Stealth Shadows and is created by Rick Kleffel new every week. The audio can be found sprinkled throughout the blog at Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show, to Tony Russomano for answering the phones and to Ewa Malady for audio editing.

Show aired on June 18, 2022.


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