The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
Dreaming as the Architect of Reality with Harry de Bont

How dreaming corrects weaving errors in our internal world models. Also, nightmares, the collective unconscious, and does artificial intelligence have one too? A discussion about what dreams have to say about the nature of reality. Harry de Bont speaks with Katherine about the many facets of what he calls cybernetic dreaming.

BIO: With a background in both Electrical Engineering and Psychology, Harry de Bont’s approach to dreams lies at the nexus of technology and psychology, what he calls the cybernetic perspective on dreams. Today, Harry would like to explore how our dreams reflect and are shaped by the ever-evolving intersection of consciousness with the universe.

Find our guest at:, IG: @harrydebont_, LI: @harry-de-bont-9b5217

This show, episode number 254, was recorded during a live broadcast on April 13, 2024 at, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show.


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