The Dream Journal
A Crow's Calling with Angela Grillo and Susan Ackerman Joseph

Susan Joseph and Angela Grillo co-lead groups around creativity and healing and (of course) dreams. We talk about their embodied / somatic way of working with dreams saying this somatic work can also be used to relieve waking life trauma. Susan gives an example of how working with one of her dreams helped to reduce her physical pain.

We took a call from Lucille who shared a tender dream in which she calls out her name then is immediately killed which brings up the vulnerability we all expose ourselves to when we claim who we truly are.

BIOs: As A Crow’s Calling, Susan and Angela combine their experience to offer integrative creative/healing arts workshops and multi-media creative works.

Angela Grillo is an intuitive coach, dream reader, yogi, artist and maker of experiential theater and performance. Currently residing in Louisiana, Angela facilitates intuitive growth coaching for individuals and groups.

Susan Ackerman Joseph (aka SackJo22), is a SoCal based certified somatic practitioner/embodiment facilitator and multi-media artist. Susan supports individuals and groups sharing what she has learned along her way as a student of our deepest wisdom as revealed in dreams, symbols and nature.

Music from SackJo’s album Songs of Dreams is available on Bandcamp.

You can contact Susan and Angela at their webpages here:

Live ambient music by Rick Kleffel.

Show aired on December 12, 2020.


The Dream Journal is produced at and airs on KSQD Santa Cruz, 90.7 FM, streaming live at 10-11am Saturday mornings Pacific time.  Catch it live and call in with your dreams or questions at 831-900-5773.

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