The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
What Dreams Have to Say about Reality with Tina Tau

Is waking life really a kind of theater which we make up along the way? The transformative potential of dreamwork, today with author and certified dreamworker, Tina Tau. Tina shares a dream in which she struggles to swim upstream, then suddenly stands up and realizes the water is not so deep. We speak about how this highlights that our understanding of what’s true in any moment, waking or sleeping, may be radically altered by our expectations.

She shares another dream in which she notices that a giant bird seems to be operated by wires like a puppet and asks, “Who is big enough to operate that puppet?” Tina describes how this dream opened up for her the realization that much of reality is staged like a play.

After the break, Gary from Oregon calls with a dream including three planetariums. We take a second call from Kristen from Virginia who shares a dream that is one of a series of dreams about her ex-partner. We finish with a few words about asking for dreams to help with the climate change crisis and a description of her recent book “Ask for Horses”.

BIO: Tina Tau is an adventurer, writer and dreamworker, living in Portland Oregon. She is the author of the recent memoir, Ask for Horses: Memoir of a Dream-Guided Life. She believes that dreams are a royal road to a great conversation, and a window into a richer version of reality.

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Show aired on September 23, 2023.

Intro music is Water over Stones and outro music is Everything both by Mood Science. Ambient music is created new every week by Rick Kleffel. The audio can be found at Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for answering the phones.


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