The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
Pandemic as Waking Dream with Billie Ortiz

We talk about working with the pandemic as a waking dream and share some thoughts about what this dream reflects about our current culture.  We also talk about synchronicity and finally the power of dream groups.  We finish with dream sharing from three callers.

Billie Ortiz, certified dreamworker, has two decades of experience creating and facilitating dream groups, workshops and retreats. Her appreciation of metaphor and symbol expands her work to the realm of myth and fairy tale, helping guide dreamers to a deeper understanding of the profound archetypal messages of their dreams. She is certified with Dr. Jeremy Taylor’s Marin Institute for Projective Dreamwork and worked closely with Dr. Taylor co-facilitating a total of 27 retreats from 2003 until 2015. She has presented workshops at renowned organizations such as International Association for the Study of Dreams, Sage-ing International and Boulder Friends of Jung.

Show aired on April 18, 2020.


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