The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
Nightmares Demystified with Jason DeBord aka u/RadOwl

A conversation with an author of four books about dreaming, we talk about the ins and outs of nightmares and how to stop them. AKA RadOwl, our guest is Jason DeBord, moderator for the reddit page r/dreams. With over 200,000 members, it is by far the largest dream-sharing community in the world.

Jason starts by talking about a 30-year ordeal that began as a nightmare when he was a child and ended with an exorcism by a shaman. As a way of dealing with nightmares, we speak about lucid dreaming and addressing the intelligence behind the dream. We also speak about trauma and how nightmares and other dreams start to evolve once we start to work with them. Jason suggests that the main cause for nightmares is a conflict between the conscious and unconscious minds.

We take a call from Ronnie from Santa Cruz who tells about a friend who shared with him a dream about an owl. We end by musing about why dreams speak in symbols instead of more directly.

BIO: J.M. DeBord is the author of 4 books about dreams and the lead moderator of the largest online community for dream sharing, r/dreams (, where he is known as RadOwl. He created the DREAMS 1-2-3 process of dream interpretation and the online school, RadOwl’s Dream School, found at He is co-host of the popular podcast The Dreams That Shape Us,  found at

Find him at: also at Facebook: @interpretdreams and Twitter: @jmdebord

Jason’s new book is called “Nightmares: Your Guide to Interpreting Your Darkest Dreams.”

Intro music is Water over Stones and outro music is Everything both by Mood Science. Today’s ambient music is created by Rick Kleffel. The audio can be found at Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show, to Tony Russomano for answering the phones and to Ewa Malady for audio editing.

Show aired on December 10 2022.


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