The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
Finding Sacredness in the Mundane with Andrusa Lawson

Today we celebrate the 250th official podcast of the Dream Journal by replaying a popular show which just happens to be with my brand designer Andrusa Lawson of Divine by Design. Urban shamanism and setting sacred space. Dreams, like myths, can be regarded as stories that are not true but that say something true. The essence of setting a sacred space is being intentional and finding a common sense of meaning. We also speak about non-verbal communication in dreamwork and traditional indigenous oral storytelling. Also, the power of urban spirits and dreams of city places.

After the break, we take several questions from Max including what specific filters Andrusa uses to keep his dreamtime sacred. We end by speaking about Andrusa’s ideas about karma-less action.

BIO: Andrusa Lawson, Vice president and creative director of Divine by Design, is a dream worker exploring the process of committing the innate wisdom of dreaming into communal memory, the ability of stories to cross cultural barriers, and the unique medicine that oral traditions represent for people whose voices have been historically silenced.

Find our guest at:, and also on FB @divinebydesignteam, IG @divinebydesigninc, Tiktok, YouTube @divinebydesigninc215, and on Patreon at DivinebyDesignINC.

This show, episode number 250, was broadcast March 16, 2024 and is a replay from a live show recorded on August 5, 2023 at, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music is new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for answering the phones.


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