The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
Dreams as Medicine with Stephanie Trager

Our guest today, Stephanie Trager, describes herself as a repurposed lawyer and was a tree activist until a serious head injury put her on the path of healing. We talk about the idea that psyche can’t distinguish between real and not real including psychedelic visions, memories, dreams, and the her and now. She talks about reframing the past and healing our lineage, which allows us to change our present and thus the future. She then shares her story of the head trauma that upended her life and led her to the South American rain forests where she spent time with Kogi indigenous shamans.

After the break, we take a call from Ray from Santa Cruz who asks how we know when we are on the right path in life. He shares his own story of head trauma and how that changed his life. Ray also describes his passion project aimed at unifying America which you can find out about at Stephanie ends with a discussion about the difference between reconciling and spiritual dreams and talks about vivid dreaming and her mentor Margot Wilson.

BIO: Stephanie Trager bridges ancient intelligence and modern wisdom to activate human potential. A fierce seeker of truth, she guides thought leaders to remember who they really are so they can do the deep sacred work they’re really here to do. She’s a futurist, medicine woman, lawyer, impact advisor, speaker, tree communicator, and Catalyst Talks Podcast host.

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This show, episode number 258, was recorded during a live broadcast on May 10, 2024 at, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show and to Erik Nelson for the phones.


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