The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
Dream the Revolution with Victoria Rogers

“We will live in the future that we dream of today. Call in your freedom now.”

This is a rebroadcast of the most frequently played episode of the Dream Journal so far. Whether you heard it when it first came out or not, you are sure to be enchanted.

The Dream Journal hosts strategist and designer Victoria Rogers who created soundscapes in a project called Black Noise with the particular needs and sensibilities of Black people in mind. She describes her research project in which she gave Black people journals and asked them to write down reflections around dreams and daydreams to investigate if that attention deepened their appreciation of the value of rest and dreaming. We explore topics including the inequities of sleep and dreaming and how you can use dreams to help you discover your own version of freedom.

We take a call from Javier in New York who asks how Victoria’s dreams have changed since she started the project and a question from Owen asking what’s next for the Black Noise project.

Show aired July 22, 2023, and is replayed from a show originally recorded October 1, 2022.

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BIO: Victoria Rogers is a strategist focused on how to build a more equitable future for the most people. She is currently working for Alphabet, the company that owns Google, and was formerly the Director of Arts at Kickstarter, where she led the crowdfunding platform’s efforts to serve the cultural community, raising over $9.6 million for 220 projects from over 93,000 people. Victoria holds an MBA from Stanford University, an MFA from Parsons School of Design and a BA from Yale University. At Parsons, her thesis Black Noise focused on inequity in dream space, particularly for black people.

Find her on Instagram @VictoriaMRogers.

Victoria Roger’s thesis is available here and the soundscapes she created can be found at

Intro music is Water over Stones and outro music is Everything both by Mood Science. Ambient music is created new every week by Rick Kleffel. The audio can be found at Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show, to Tony Russomano for answering the phones and to Ewa Malady for audio editing.


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