The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
Dream Cantos with Sue Scavo

The work of 13th century poet Dante is a decades-long fascination for our guest who read for us three cantos from her forthcoming book buried [a place] which is patterned after the epic poem, The Divine Comedy. Each poem in Sue’s book is a canto in a larger arc which reflects her personal journey including her powerful relationship with her dreams.

We touch on issues including going through hell, the potential for violation in the teacher / student relationship, the development of discernment, finding voice, getting in touch with intuition and the futility of dream dictionaries.

We end by talking about Sue’s offerings including a dream-forward arts magazine called Deluge Journal, the Limina School which you can find at Students of the Dream, her blog about Dante and more. Her book buried [a place] will be available soon. by pre-order from Anhinga Press.


Born [in the middle] in Cincinnati, Ohio, Sue has lived most of her life at one edge [California] or another [New England]. Her debut book of poems Buried [A Place] is forthcoming Spring, 2022 from Anhinga Press.

Her work has been published in numerous publications including Poet Lore, Blue Heron Review, Aster(ix), Burning House Press, Literary Mama, Panolopy and others; and in anthologies, including What Have You Lost? ed. Naomi Shihab Nye (Harper Collins). Before receiving her MFA from New England College, she was awarded a writer’s residency at The Vermont Studio Center in Johnson, Vermont where she became a staff artist.

Sue is co-editor/co-founder of deLuge Literary and Arts Journal and is a Dreamwork Teacher/Practitioner who has taught/presented internationally at conferences/venues such as Esalen Institute, Kripalu Center, Breitenbush Retreat Center, The Rowe Center, Hollyhock and the International Association for the Study of Dreams. – author page as well as dream page – writings about dreams – dream school and practitioner links – publisher – literary magazine which Sue founded and runs with Karla van Vliet

We play clips from the following two guest-selected songs both by U2: Love is Bigger Than Anything in its Way and Ordinary Love.

Ambient music created by Rick Kleffel new every week. Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for engineering the show and to Erik Nelson for answering the phones.

Show aired on January 15, 2022.


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