The Dream Journal
The Dream Journal
Death in the Dream World with Gestalt Therapist George Leute

George starts by sharing a dream in which he is shot in the head and dies but still has awareness. This dream heralded some major changes in his life path as dreams sometimes do. We talk about “death in the dream world” and the transformation of caterpillar into butterfly as symbols of major personal growth.

We also talk about shadow work, dream enactment, ethical dream sharing and what spiritual practices that George has found to increase dream recall. George describes principles from Gestalt practice including present-ification and vivification. We end with a conversation around anima figures.

BIO. George Leute is a psychologist living and working outside of Philadelphia. He has a master’s degree in Clinical Psychology and has worked as a psychotherapist for over 40 years. In 2003, he graduated from the Gestalt Therapy Institute of Philadelphia and finds that Gestalt Therapy provides a sense of adventure and aliveness. George is also a 2008 graduate of the Haden Institute’s two-year Dream Group Leadership training program. He currently serves as Co-Chair of IASD’s Ethics Committee. Studying world religions and contemplative approaches has been an ongoing pursuit for George and he has been especially interested in the relationship between spiritual exercises and dream quality and recall.

We play clips from the following two guest-selected songs: Dos Oruguitas from the soundtrack of Encanto and Over The Rainbow by Israel Kamakawio’ ole.

Ambient music created by Rick Kleffel new every week. Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for engineering the show, to Tony Russomano for answering the phones and to Ewa Malady for audio editing.

Show aired on February 12, 2022.


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